education was heavily supported in massachusetts. the education system there was rated very highly. host: let me put the numbers on the screen. 1.5 million young people between ages of 80-29 eligible to vote here in ohio. you both, i assume, have student loans. the average debt of college students is just under $28,000. the and apply merit among those between the ages of 20-24 is about 16.5%. guest: that is definitely a big issue for me and a big concern, the student loans and student interest rates. this affects meet effectively -- this affects what we fought for. making sure we talk to the legislators and talked about how we can afford to see the interest rates doubled. that is why we saw president obama during the summer go to college campuses and speak to students to say we cannot let the republican-led congress raise interest rates and see them double. that is something where i am glad has passed in a bipartisan manner. it is extremely important. when we talk about health grants -- pell grants, we talk about who will be investing in education programs? i am not saying that mitt